Comments on: Have We Forgotten About the Employee? http://www.successfactors.com/blogs/business-execution/have-we-forgotten-about-the-employee/ Execution is the Difference. Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:55:50 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Steven Wieman http://www.successfactors.com/blogs/business-execution/have-we-forgotten-about-the-employee/comment-page-1/#comment-48 Steven Wieman Sat, 07 Jan 2006 10:30:25 +0000 http://10.50.0.97/wordpress/workforce-performance/index.php/have-we-forgotten-about-the-employee/#comment-48 Sounds like the guy above is very upset for no logical reason. The HR department simply helps a company find and hire employees that meet departments needs. The HR department is also there to assist in personal and company matters for all employees. Each department has it's own goals and objectives for their employees in which they manage. No one could expect the HR department to be experts in every department. Sounds like the guy above is very upset for no logical reason. The HR department simply helps a company find and hire employees that meet departments needs. The HR department is also there to assist in personal and company matters for all employees. Each department has it’s own goals and objectives for their employees in which they manage. No one could expect the HR department to be experts in every department.

]]> By: Colle Davis http://www.successfactors.com/blogs/business-execution/have-we-forgotten-about-the-employee/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Colle Davis Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:23:04 +0000 http://10.50.0.97/wordpress/workforce-performance/index.php/have-we-forgotten-about-the-employee/#comment-47 Mr. Bernshteyn makes several points that lay heavy emphasis on his assumptions and his company’s pointed marketing strategy. Each of these points is addressed in an article in Fast Company entitled Why We Hate HR at <a href="http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/97/open_hr.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/97/open_hr.html</a> written in August of 2005. Start there and realize the author is far better credentialed then Mr. Bersshteyn to discuss the matter. Our own company has been working with companies to develop their leaders since 1982 and our experience with two glaring exception is that HR is the last place you’ll find a champion of developing your current and future leaders. Every other department in a wide array of companies we have worked with were supportive of screening, hiring and grooming people (not ‘human resources’ or ‘human capital’ or ‘warm bodies’) to help the company grow and prosper. These department heads see HR as the enemy and the last place to take any initiative that may require original thinking, a variation on the rules or a deserved adjustment in the compensation schedule. Too many managers and leaders have been beaten up by HR and don’t trust them to make any decisions concerning their own career let alone anyone in their group. In the business downturn starting in 2000 the first two areas companies cut were Sales (complete insanity, no sales - no company) and training and development (lets stop grooming our talent because we can hire it when the cycle changes). Who do you think did the hatchet job in all cases - HR, with full credit and support from the FINANCE department. Now companies are scrambling for talent and are just beginning to look at training and career development again. What level of rapport and trust does HR have when they go looking to attract talent? Very little because it’s not required, it’s not in their job description, and there is no reason be honest in their interactions with the candidates because they don’t have to work with them once they’re hired. Be careful, be very careful of the source of comments you accept as useful. The world is awash in blogs, commentators, PR releases masquerading as news and just plain silliness as well as marketing people posing as experts. Don’t trust me or anyone else you read. Find out for yourself if what you know is true and valid and if it is what you’re doing in your own life. Mr. Bernshteyn makes several points that lay heavy emphasis on his assumptions and his company’s pointed marketing strategy. Each of these points is addressed in an article in Fast Company entitled Why We Hate HR at http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/97/open_hr.html written in August of 2005. Start there and realize the author is far better credentialed then Mr. Bersshteyn to discuss the matter.

Our own company has been working with companies to develop their leaders since 1982 and our experience with two glaring exception is that HR is the last place you’ll find a champion of developing your current and future leaders. Every other department in a wide array of companies we have worked with were supportive of screening, hiring and grooming people (not ‘human resources’ or ‘human capital’ or ‘warm bodies’) to help the company grow and prosper. These department heads see HR as the enemy and the last place to take any initiative that may require original thinking, a variation on the rules or a deserved adjustment in the compensation schedule. Too many managers and leaders have been beaten up by HR and don’t trust them to make any decisions concerning their own career let alone anyone in their group.

In the business downturn starting in 2000 the first two areas companies cut were Sales (complete insanity, no sales – no company) and training and development (lets stop grooming our talent because we can hire it when the cycle changes). Who do you think did the hatchet job in all cases – HR, with full credit and support from the FINANCE department. Now companies are scrambling for talent and are just beginning to look at training and career development again. What level of rapport and trust does HR have when they go looking to attract talent? Very little because it’s not required, it’s not in their job description, and there is no reason be honest in their interactions with the candidates because they don’t have to work with them once they’re hired.

Be careful, be very careful of the source of comments you accept as useful. The world is awash in blogs, commentators, PR releases masquerading as news and just plain silliness as well as marketing people posing as experts. Don’t trust me or anyone else you read. Find out for yourself if what you know is true and valid and if it is what you’re doing in your own life.

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